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		<title>By: Obama&#8217;s Senate Seat for Sale &#8212; on eBay &#171; NotionsCapital</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama&#8217;s Senate Seat for Sale &#8212; on eBay &#171; NotionsCapital</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] bleeping broad in Alaska offered to trade a bleeping  jet for it. She said an old friend lost a seat  just like it and she wanted to replace it as a Christmas [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Troopergate &#8212; Plane Talk Express &#171; NotionsCapital</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troopergate &#8212; Plane Talk Express &#171; NotionsCapital</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] prisoners and escorts directly back and forth for court dates in a few hours. Since Governor Palin sold the jet, if commerical tickets are not available or prisoners are violent, one of the state&#8217;s two [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Licht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Licht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith: Of course Ms. Palin meant to mislead; there is no other reason for such a locution.

And the results speak for themselves: she mislead John McCain. 

If you think the Senator is a stupid, gullible old fool for taking her comments that way, please comment about &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; incident &lt;a href=&quot;http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/palin-fib-takes-off/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;where it is approriate&lt;/a&gt;, not on this comment string.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith: Of course Ms. Palin meant to mislead; there is no other reason for such a locution.</p>
<p>And the results speak for themselves: she mislead John McCain. </p>
<p>If you think the Senator is a stupid, gullible old fool for taking her comments that way, please comment about <em>that</em> incident <a href="http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/palin-fib-takes-off/" rel="nofollow">where it is approriate</a>, not on this comment string.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that Is the fact.  You don&#039;t know.  You do not know what she intended.  You are not her mind-reader, so you don&#039;t really know.  You assume.  You guess. You want to believe she&#039;s misleading, because she&#039;s the other candidate, but you don&#039;t know!  What&#039;s so misleading about McCain forgetting a relatively minute&#039; detail about whether it was actually Ebay or someone else that conducted the actual transaction.  She put it on Ebay, actually.  She Actually sold it.  Actually, there was a second party who took it off Ebay and conducted a transaction off their site.  So what if McCain slipped up on that during a speaking engagement.  I&#039;ll bet if you asked him, he&#039;d correct it on the spot!  Who wouldn&#039;t?  This is what I mean.  These kind of arguments telling me about &quot;facts&quot; that are just some blogger drivel, aren&#039;t &quot;facts&quot; at all... telling me what Mrs Palin &quot;meant&quot; to say or do, from you or someone who doesn&#039;t know her personally, isn&#039;t &quot;fact&quot;.  It&#039;s your opinion.  Not Fact!  Facts are things that are proveable, not votable.  It doesn&#039;t matter how many are on your side, or believe with you- that doesn&#039;t make it a &quot;fact&quot;.  
So if you&#039;re sticking to the facts, don&#039;t give me your opinion of what someone else thought, or intended, unless you have it from them.  Know the difference between opinions, suppositions, and facts.  
Now, since these kind of arguments with basically immature thinkers generally end up down a hole of silliness, I&#039;m going to quote the famous village idiot, Forest Gump.  &quot;... and that&#039;s all I have to say about that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that Is the fact.  You don&#8217;t know.  You do not know what she intended.  You are not her mind-reader, so you don&#8217;t really know.  You assume.  You guess. You want to believe she&#8217;s misleading, because she&#8217;s the other candidate, but you don&#8217;t know!  What&#8217;s so misleading about McCain forgetting a relatively minute&#8217; detail about whether it was actually Ebay or someone else that conducted the actual transaction.  She put it on Ebay, actually.  She Actually sold it.  Actually, there was a second party who took it off Ebay and conducted a transaction off their site.  So what if McCain slipped up on that during a speaking engagement.  I&#8217;ll bet if you asked him, he&#8217;d correct it on the spot!  Who wouldn&#8217;t?  This is what I mean.  These kind of arguments telling me about &#8220;facts&#8221; that are just some blogger drivel, aren&#8217;t &#8220;facts&#8221; at all&#8230; telling me what Mrs Palin &#8220;meant&#8221; to say or do, from you or someone who doesn&#8217;t know her personally, isn&#8217;t &#8220;fact&#8221;.  It&#8217;s your opinion.  Not Fact!  Facts are things that are proveable, not votable.  It doesn&#8217;t matter how many are on your side, or believe with you- that doesn&#8217;t make it a &#8220;fact&#8221;.<br />
So if you&#8217;re sticking to the facts, don&#8217;t give me your opinion of what someone else thought, or intended, unless you have it from them.  Know the difference between opinions, suppositions, and facts.<br />
Now, since these kind of arguments with basically immature thinkers generally end up down a hole of silliness, I&#8217;m going to quote the famous village idiot, Forest Gump.  &#8220;&#8230; and that&#8217;s all I have to say about that!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Licht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Licht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith:

So stick to the facts: Mrs. Palin meant to mislead the American public and she has, starting with her running mate, Senator McCain. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkKz901exQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;See the video.&lt;/a&gt;

Is it the worst thing she has done? Sadly, no. But it was how she started the campaign, and&lt;em&gt; it is what this post is about. &lt;/em&gt; We do not go off-topic here.

For some of her other indiscretions, look elsewhere on this blog and in major (and Alaskan) newspapers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith:</p>
<p>So stick to the facts: Mrs. Palin meant to mislead the American public and she has, starting with her running mate, Senator McCain. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HkKz901exQ" rel="nofollow">See the video.</a></p>
<p>Is it the worst thing she has done? Sadly, no. But it was how she started the campaign, and<em> it is what this post is about. </em> We do not go off-topic here.</p>
<p>For some of her other indiscretions, look elsewhere on this blog and in major (and Alaskan) newspapers.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I prefer to stick to the facts.  The fact was, she didn&#039;t sell it on Ebay.  The fact was, she did finally sell it, who cares where or how!  The fact is, she didn&#039;t mention the details of the sale, or that it wasn&#039;t Ebay, but another source who finally completed the sale.  But Sarah Palin did nothing at all to hide that fact.  You think she should have said &quot; I put it on Ebay- where it didn&#039;t sell, so I pulled it off there, and listed it with a broker, where a few months later he sold it.&quot;  But I still sold it, and got it off the payroll.  Not as fast as I&#039;d have liked, but just like you selling your house, you list it with a real estate broker for a while, and if it doesn&#039;t sell for your initial price, you either list it with someone else, or lower your price, or both... don&#039;t you??? &quot;
Since that wasn&#039;t part of her speech, you guess- because you really don&#039;t know that to be a fact- that she had clear intentions of hiding a fact that she would be aware was clearly in public view, since she&#039;s been fighting that issue in Alaska for 2 years.  The fact that John McCain apparently got it wrong, and hadn&#039;t heard the whole story doesn&#039;t make him a liar.  It does make him misinformed about that particular fact, but using someone&#039;s lip slip as &quot;proof&quot; that they are lying is pretty much a college kid mindset.  Maybe you are one.  If so, see you when you grow up.  It&#039;ll look different then, after you&#039;ve made those same mistakes yourself a bunch of times, and come to expect that normal people normally overlook mistakes, and don&#039;t try to turn them into something else.  
Again, both sides are making plenty of mistakes.  Let them.  Judge them on their true merits, not some silly partisan tripe, that&#039;s nothing more than parsing words, or expanding a mistake into a major political stumble.  The people at the voting both know better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I prefer to stick to the facts.  The fact was, she didn&#8217;t sell it on Ebay.  The fact was, she did finally sell it, who cares where or how!  The fact is, she didn&#8217;t mention the details of the sale, or that it wasn&#8217;t Ebay, but another source who finally completed the sale.  But Sarah Palin did nothing at all to hide that fact.  You think she should have said &#8221; I put it on Ebay- where it didn&#8217;t sell, so I pulled it off there, and listed it with a broker, where a few months later he sold it.&#8221;  But I still sold it, and got it off the payroll.  Not as fast as I&#8217;d have liked, but just like you selling your house, you list it with a real estate broker for a while, and if it doesn&#8217;t sell for your initial price, you either list it with someone else, or lower your price, or both&#8230; don&#8217;t you??? &#8221;<br />
Since that wasn&#8217;t part of her speech, you guess- because you really don&#8217;t know that to be a fact- that she had clear intentions of hiding a fact that she would be aware was clearly in public view, since she&#8217;s been fighting that issue in Alaska for 2 years.  The fact that John McCain apparently got it wrong, and hadn&#8217;t heard the whole story doesn&#8217;t make him a liar.  It does make him misinformed about that particular fact, but using someone&#8217;s lip slip as &#8220;proof&#8221; that they are lying is pretty much a college kid mindset.  Maybe you are one.  If so, see you when you grow up.  It&#8217;ll look different then, after you&#8217;ve made those same mistakes yourself a bunch of times, and come to expect that normal people normally overlook mistakes, and don&#8217;t try to turn them into something else.<br />
Again, both sides are making plenty of mistakes.  Let them.  Judge them on their true merits, not some silly partisan tripe, that&#8217;s nothing more than parsing words, or expanding a mistake into a major political stumble.  The people at the voting both know better.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Licht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Licht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith:

If Ms. Palin did not mislead the American people at the convention, then Senator John Sidney McCain III &lt;a href=&quot;http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/palin-fib-takes-off/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;must have misunderstood her &lt;/a&gt;due to his approaching senility.

 Shame on you for suggesting that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith:</p>
<p>If Ms. Palin did not mislead the American people at the convention, then Senator John Sidney McCain III <a href="http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/palin-fib-takes-off/" rel="nofollow">must have misunderstood her </a>due to his approaching senility.</p>
<p> Shame on you for suggesting that.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 02:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AWWW... Are these Palin finger pointers the same people who thought it was all right when their &quot;good ole boy&quot; Clinton parsed his words with &quot; I did not have sex with that woman...&quot; and tried to explain why it was &quot;technically&quot; not sex???

Are we to assume this airplane &quot;broker&quot; would have sold this 20 yr old airplane instantly, and would not have taken a year to get rid of it?  Even after he had it, it, he didn&#039;t get it moved immediately, and by then, the deal was now well known statewide,  so he didn&#039;t have any advertising expense, since the media had seen to that during the previous year of yapping about the Ebay no-deal.  
I think it might have taken that long anyway; who&#039;s to say?  And for what price might he have moved it sooner?  Maybe a lower price?  

The libs have Got to get real.  Their candidate took office for the first time in 2004, so he has 2 years experience as a Jr Senator, and has spent the last 1/2 of his term at least, campaigning. (We&#039;ve got 5 mo of that term left)  He doesn&#039;t manage that campaign, he&#039;s the candidate.  The DNC manages the campaign.  &quot;The Party&quot; is the &quot;Company&quot; he works for, and he&#039;s the mouthpiece, the salesman, not the manager.  Someone else manages the DNC, not the candidate. Who&#039;s He kidding?  He&#039;s never managed a boy scout pack!  He goofed off in the Illinois State senate until &#039;02, and took 2 years to get himself elected to US Senate in 2004.  
 
A Jr senator in his first 2 years isn&#039;t comparable to a State Governor of Any state, in any way, shape or form.  

Palin doesn&#039;t have a truth problem.  She told the truth.  She put it on Ebay.  That&#039;s the truth.  She did!  The fact that she didn&#039;t make it part of her speech the fact that it didn&#039;t sell, doesn&#039;t make her a liar!  Nothing she said was a lie.  What Clinton said WAS a lie. He wasn&#039;t guilty of leaving out a small statement.  What he said was untruthful.  A Lie!   Sheesh.  
  
Palin just didn&#039;t tell you everything you needed to try to parse it against her.  It wasn&#039;t necessary.  It happened a year ago, and that info is readily available to anyone who knows how to Google.  It wasn&#039;t being withheld as a lie or even a secret.  It just wasn&#039;t included in what was already a 45 minute speech.  Good grief, how long a speech would it have been if she&#039;d have explained every detail of everything she&#039;s done since her first office as PTA Pres.  She&#039;d still be talking right now!  
If you&#039;re going to vote for someone, it should be because of their qualities, experience, and intentions, not which party they&#039;ve joined.  Bashing this woman is clearly party oriented, and that&#039;s clear indication of the intelligence and immaturity of the people who are trying to twist and squeeze something &quot;false&quot; out of every ommision or tongue slip she makes.  
It&#039;s alright to criticize, but right thinking people will seek actual truth, not the party line, to make their judgements.  The criticisms here are clearly the party line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AWWW&#8230; Are these Palin finger pointers the same people who thought it was all right when their &#8220;good ole boy&#8221; Clinton parsed his words with &#8221; I did not have sex with that woman&#8230;&#8221; and tried to explain why it was &#8220;technically&#8221; not sex???</p>
<p>Are we to assume this airplane &#8220;broker&#8221; would have sold this 20 yr old airplane instantly, and would not have taken a year to get rid of it?  Even after he had it, it, he didn&#8217;t get it moved immediately, and by then, the deal was now well known statewide,  so he didn&#8217;t have any advertising expense, since the media had seen to that during the previous year of yapping about the Ebay no-deal.<br />
I think it might have taken that long anyway; who&#8217;s to say?  And for what price might he have moved it sooner?  Maybe a lower price?  </p>
<p>The libs have Got to get real.  Their candidate took office for the first time in 2004, so he has 2 years experience as a Jr Senator, and has spent the last 1/2 of his term at least, campaigning. (We&#8217;ve got 5 mo of that term left)  He doesn&#8217;t manage that campaign, he&#8217;s the candidate.  The DNC manages the campaign.  &#8220;The Party&#8221; is the &#8220;Company&#8221; he works for, and he&#8217;s the mouthpiece, the salesman, not the manager.  Someone else manages the DNC, not the candidate. Who&#8217;s He kidding?  He&#8217;s never managed a boy scout pack!  He goofed off in the Illinois State senate until &#8216;02, and took 2 years to get himself elected to US Senate in 2004.  </p>
<p>A Jr senator in his first 2 years isn&#8217;t comparable to a State Governor of Any state, in any way, shape or form.  </p>
<p>Palin doesn&#8217;t have a truth problem.  She told the truth.  She put it on Ebay.  That&#8217;s the truth.  She did!  The fact that she didn&#8217;t make it part of her speech the fact that it didn&#8217;t sell, doesn&#8217;t make her a liar!  Nothing she said was a lie.  What Clinton said WAS a lie. He wasn&#8217;t guilty of leaving out a small statement.  What he said was untruthful.  A Lie!   Sheesh.  </p>
<p>Palin just didn&#8217;t tell you everything you needed to try to parse it against her.  It wasn&#8217;t necessary.  It happened a year ago, and that info is readily available to anyone who knows how to Google.  It wasn&#8217;t being withheld as a lie or even a secret.  It just wasn&#8217;t included in what was already a 45 minute speech.  Good grief, how long a speech would it have been if she&#8217;d have explained every detail of everything she&#8217;s done since her first office as PTA Pres.  She&#8217;d still be talking right now!<br />
If you&#8217;re going to vote for someone, it should be because of their qualities, experience, and intentions, not which party they&#8217;ve joined.  Bashing this woman is clearly party oriented, and that&#8217;s clear indication of the intelligence and immaturity of the people who are trying to twist and squeeze something &#8220;false&#8221; out of every ommision or tongue slip she makes.<br />
It&#8217;s alright to criticize, but right thinking people will seek actual truth, not the party line, to make their judgements.  The criticisms here are clearly the party line.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 22:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palin&#039;s got a Truth Problem.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Licht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Licht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;zsirrom says: It was a joke, if you watched her speech and used common sense you would know that. &lt;/em&gt;

Tell that to Senator John Sidney McCain III. He &lt;a href=&quot;http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/palin-fib-takes-off/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;repeated the lie&lt;/a&gt;, the first day of campaigning after the convention. and his running mate, Alaska&#039;s Governor, was standing right next to him and&lt;em&gt; did not &lt;/em&gt;correct him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>zsirrom says: It was a joke, if you watched her speech and used common sense you would know that. </em></p>
<p>Tell that to Senator John Sidney McCain III. He <a href="http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/palin-fib-takes-off/" rel="nofollow">repeated the lie</a>, the first day of campaigning after the convention. and his running mate, Alaska&#8217;s Governor, was standing right next to him and<em> did not </em>correct him.</p>
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